I really don't understand the last sentence ; “People stop, and there’s two turning lanes with a sign out there that says no turn on red except right lane.” Why not do the inexpensive thing and change the sign to read NO TURN ON RED for either lane. After all it will save money just like not fixing the roads just put up a sign that says BUMP or WATER ON ROAD. I don't know how many times I have had people beeping their horns because I would not turn right on a red or move out into the intersection and endanger myself and others so they (the more important people) could make a turn 10 or 15 seconds early.

I am sure your Insurance company would like to know that Mike. We all wonder why our auto insurance cost keep going up?

Alan and Mike, you're both wrong -but I do understand your respective points of view.

Alan, by sitting at a red light at which a right turn is legal (and assuming you have a clear shot at it in traffic), you should go -especially if there is someone behind you. In the end your reasoning of safety may make the roads less safe by ticking off multiple drivers (like Mike -and me) behind you. Even if nobody is behind you, you would just be mucking up our air more than you would if you just get going.

Mike, I hear ya brother, but of course we can't go around tapping cars. So, best not to even think about it.

Ever since Red Light Photo Enforced Became the biggest rip off, I hardly ever turn on red when it is allowed. Im so scared I will get a ticket. I have and they are expensive. The red light photo enforced light I feel have caused more accidents and frustration for the people behind me. Sorry but if your in that much of a hurry grow up and leave extra time for your destination! Accident Free for 30 years!!!

The original idea of allowing right turns during red lights came out of the "bad old days" of what was once called the Energy Crisis many decades ago. The reasoning was that millions of gallons of gasoline was being wasted by cars that were stopped at signalized intersections waiting for a green light. This came about a short time after President Nixon mandated a national speed limit of 55 mph on federal highways. Most citizens thought that Drive 55 was a law, when in realty it was the threat of the Federal Government withholding highway repair and maintenance funding from states that failed to comply with the mandate that kept them, and us, in compliance.

It makes no sense to not turn right when it is allowed. So that means we can pick and choose what rules we feel comfortable with? That's pure arrogant and passive aggressive when you know most people are and have been turning until it's your turn. Way to add to the road rage!