Markham: Human Growth Hormone Was for Diabetes
Mokena 159 board of education candidate Patrick Markham was convicted of possession of anabolic steroid in 2008, Mokena Patch has learned. Markham said he used the human growth hormone to treat his diabetes.
A 2008 conviction of possession of anabolic steroid was the result of an online pharmacy order gone wrong, Mokena 159 school board candidate Patrick Markham said.
According to court documents acquired by Mokena Patch, Markham was charged in 2008 with unlawful possession of human growth hormone with intent to deliver.
The felony charge was later reduced to possession of anabolic steroid, a misdemeanor of which Markham was convicted, according to court documents.
Markham told Patch he had ordered the human growth hormone, for which he had a prescription, to treat his diabetes. He said he purchased from an online overseas pharmacy because it was "too costly" to buy in the United States. Markham said it was the first time he had ordered human growth hormone and that he had not used it before placing the order.
The package carrying the human growth hormone, which was shipped from China and marked as a "gift" with a declared value of $20, caught the attention of the Joliet Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad (M.A.N.S.), according to documents. The squad received a warrant to search Markham's business in January of 2008. M.A.N.S. seized 50 vials of human growth hormone, seven bottles of bacteriostatic water and a syringe.
Markham pleaded guilty to possession of anabolic steroid and was fined $1,000 and sentenced to 12 months conditional discharge.
Volunteer
3:27 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Oh no this scares me.
Kipper
4:23 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
There's nothing scary the man had a prescription! He just filled it in another country for less.
Dee Miller
5:31 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
@ Not Happy
Yes, diabetes is a scary thing, it controls a persons life, takes away limbs, and in some cases death occurs. It is a very scary disease. What is very scary is that not everyone can afford the medications it takes to treat and control this disease on a daily basis
Thoughtful Citizen
3:42 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Me too.
Rocco T
4:44 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Me three. I will be honest as well, Patrick Markham lost my vote even before the latest developments. Very interesting way of trying to save a few bucks, makes me wonder how he plans on saving our schools.
patrick markham
4:05 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
YEP I tried to save money ordering PRESCRIPTION medicine from over boarder, Misdemeanor TERMINATED on completion of SUPERVISION.
One correction; HORMONE not Steroid.. HORMONE that is prescribed, at any Hormone therapy medical facility. (as noted in title)
I found I could get a minimum order of the treatment from over the border at one minimum order of meds quantity for the price of ONE Doctor visit treatment.
Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
Yep , you got another senior red-handed trying to save money on prescription meds
I apologize to any perhaps offended that I tried to save some money on
Semper Fi
8:50 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Mr. Markham,
I am so disappointed. As one of your supporters I had anxiously waited to hear what you had to say about this issue. You were arrested for a felony! You plead guilty to a misdemeanor! All you can say is that you were trying to save money!? Many of us are on a fixed income. I wouldn't cheat on my taxes and then claim its ok because I'm a senior. Times are tough but that's no excuse to break the law. I guess I was hoping that you were different. You are not the man I thought you were...
SEMPER FI
Just A Thought
10:55 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
I call B.S - I don't believe this is an actual 'retired marine'. What I do believe is that it is a pro-ref lemming masquerading as a patriotic protector of our country - There should be a law against this.
Kipper
4:20 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Pat thanks for being honest. It's really sad that some people resorted to such behavior exposing a senior and exaggerating your offense for simply trying to save money. You can count on my vote!!!
Mike
6:13 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Mine too.
Seriously?
4:46 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Well, if you have the right amount of money a felony like yours could get reduced. Please address the intent to distribute charge linked to your felony. Here's an idea, next time save the lawyer money for your prescription needs.
Kipper
5:14 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
He didn't have a lawyer! It was the officer that searched his business.... and really when the officer realized it was a senior he left, then went to court to explain that to the judge. So no he's not some billionaire or even a Kennedy, just a senior trying to save money.
Cheryl Stelmar
5:18 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
I would also like to hear comment on the intent to distribute charge as stated in the court docket.
Dee Miller
5:26 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
OK, even I know this one. The charge "intent to distribute" is due just to the quantity of drug one person has in their possession. It does not mean that they were caught trying to sell it to someone if that is what you all are trying to imply
Karrie Bieker
5:34 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Why would someone plead guilty and pay $1000 if they had a prescription for the medication? He WAS charged with possession of anabolic steriods (50 vials to be correct). Why the correction from Markham? If you have a prescription then what is the problem- why would you plea bargain? A senior trying to save a buck by buying overseas? Prosecutors do not negotiate plea deals just because of costs. If there was no evidence to back it up, they can dismiss the case- happens all the time. Even if it went down like he claims and he made such a HUGE, costly mistake trying to save a buck and almost ended up in jail, what could he do to our school district? If we are to portray him as a poor, old senior citizen trying to save a buck then let's portray him as a board candidate that can be very careless in his decision-making.
Just A Thought
5:56 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Het Karrie,
Maybe he would not have had a problem if he had a 'gold plated' insurance plan, completely paid for, like our ADMINISTRATORS have. You know the same administartors and inept board that you and the other lemmings seem intent on defending. Maybe there wouldn't be a fincial problem for a seniors, If their taxes WEREN"T SO HIGH. MAYBE, this issue with MR. MARKHAM wouldn't be so critical IF THE PRO-REF LEMMINGS HAD SOME DECENT ARGUMENTS TO MAKE (Or at least refute ours). CAN the pro-ref people talk about the issues? Seems lioke NOT.
Karrie Bieker
6:11 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Hey Just a Thought,
1- The question of why he would plead guilty if he had a prescription is still lingering? I said nothing about insurance.
2- The obvious argument is we need more explanation (like point #1) before we have a board member who has been dipping in steriods. That would be a conflict of interest on two levels a) The school district has a program called DARE and it is all about saying "NO" to drugs, b) if he had enough drugs to sell, wouldn't school-aged children a market for him? Those are the issues that people are concerned with. The whole steriods-for-diabetes-story sounds fishy and I, for one, want to make sure that if there is any illegal behavior being conducted by him that we not have that represented on our school district board of education. It doesn't matter if you are pro-ref or not, a candidate with a felony charge and misdemeanor conviction (and as recently as 2008) is not good for our board.
Dee Miller
7:02 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Kerrie,
I want to try to answer question
1- When MANS gets involved in something there are expenses that are involved and some where along the lines someone is going to pay for them they usually do not get thrown out. The right to plead not guilty or guilty is given when you go to court
If you plead not guilty, you have the right to a trial by jury or to have the judge make the decision, it is hit or miss on what the verdict will be. If he pleaded not guilty and rightfully himself knew he was not guilty but got a jury full of ones like the ones posting on this board and they found him guilty that would be it, they decide the sentence.
If you are able to strike a deal with the states attorney the plea is guilty and this is usually a better option. Regardless you know your innocent, and the states attorney knows you are innocent, but someone still has to pay for the expenses that this all caused. pleading guilty in most cases is the best bet. We arrested you, we were wrong, but you still need to pay the fines. Truth is that is the way it works. The charges get dropped to a misdemeanor and in 4 or so years you can have it expunged off of your record and no one will ever know that it happened.
2- I have no answer for your question to #2, I think those things are absurd accusations
Just A Thought
5:34 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
I go away to do some work for a while and look what happens, the delinquints take over.
"Thoughtful' - You disappoint me...I thoght you always took the 'high' road. You asked your questions, you got your answers time to stop taking the focus off of where it belongs - The inept BOARD and the unwaaranted REFERENDUM.
"Not Happy", "ROCCO", & 'Seriously' - Well seeing as you couldn't support your pro-ref arguments with any acumen, I'd say its a good idea for you to stay on this thread - most 'reassonable' people with see this attack as what it is and move on. Plus if clowns stay here, than we won't have to waste any bandwith om your inane postings on the other important threads.
BLAST AWAT IDIOTS!!
"Cheryl" - Since I haven't seen any of your posts before, I'll assume that you are on the level and give you the benefit of the doubt. Mr. Markham has psoted what happened both in this story and on other threads. It is a very minor incident (even the arresting COP thought so). He made a mistake, he paid his dues incident over. The Pro-ref 'attack lemmings' have seized upon this occurance as thier last chance to make a difference in this race - thier 'Rally' was a bust, thier arguments are few and with little merit or audience, and the opposition to the referendum was mounting. So the Pro-refs have decided to go with 'muck-raking' - VERY CLASSY - If Mr. Markham were to fall down in the street, they would accuse him of blocking traffic. I hope you are not like them.
Rocco T
6:10 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Hmm. "Clowns", "Idiots", and "Attack Lemmings", you are oozing with class Just a Thought. I would rather be called any of those things than a "Criminal" running for a school board.
Just A Thought
10:25 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Well then you are in luck Rocco - because you are all three.
vote yes
5:51 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
But it is ok to question the character of Zakula right?...The people on this page seem to only respond to certain comments, when it doesn't suit their opinion.
Let me just pose a question.... Since most of you seem to be coming from the business world...What type of people head up boards of large companies? The answer is people that have experience in that particular business. So what is the problem with carrie zekula? She has the experience as a teacher, she knows how the union works, will bring experience and knowledge of how a school system really works.. That is what I want in a school board member. Not someone who has no idea how the system works...or for that matter someone who does "whatever it takes" to save a few bucks!
Just A Thought
6:05 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
1. I nver questioned the 'character' of Zakula. I have always said she is a good person. My problems with her stem from the fact that her life-experience as a teacher could dis-color her view when dealing with the 159 staff (you know OTHER TEACHERS). It sort of like why cops aren't allowed to serve on juries.
2. My other opposition to Zakula is her leadership role within the pro-referendum organization. I have stated this a hundred times, but here it is AGAIN. Referendums should be the only used as a case of LAST RESORT. - when ALL OTHER LOGICAL & VIABLE solutions have been expended. This was not the case with this referendum. The board went straight to referendum without doing anything else that was significant or permenant. Carries involvement with this at the stage that she got involved indicates to me that she is at best 'referendum friendly' and I don't like this attitude. Referendums should be treated as the evils that they are.
Volunteer
6:21 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Hey just a thought leave me out of your comments. I am not into this bickering back and forth and trying to prove my case. I feel that on these posts it is a losing battle because everyone has there opinions. At Dee, I know exactly what diabetes is my mom has it and I had a relative that had an amputee because of it and passed away.
Kipper
6:44 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Then don't bicker..you have no case anyways. Glad you know what diabetes is. Now do you know what it's like to see a family member pay for something that is bleeding them dry, yet they need it to stay alive. Because I do and that's an eye opener!! I had an aunt DIE because she couldn't afford treatment!! Many people have. Regardless Mr. Markham came clean gave his story and even that's not enough for you fools! Besides we need to be fighting for are kids right now anyways, not wasting time on person attacks of ones past. Vote for him if you want to because I think this guy is one of the few who have it right, and clearly will go to great lengths: to not only give my kids the best education but also not waste money!!!
vote yes
6:22 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
When the state of Illinois is not providing the funding that is it should...what is a a school district to do? Pull money out of a hat? Not going to happen... You cannot run a school without money. You can appoint any board member you want, you can close MIS, you can eliminate programs(that while, not necessary, will enrich our children), you can cut teachers...but it is only a bandaide that will eventually fall off.... Then what...try again...after our children have suffered for a couple years...To me those couple of years can make a big difference in my child's life
Just A Thought
10:52 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Are we the voters and residents expected to pull money out of a hat? Have you tried to run a household without enough money? This economy is bad, people are facing job loss, income loss, foreclosures. What do you have to say to a resident who is having trouble paying their bills NOW - "SORRY our needs are greater than yours...too bad you can no longer afford your house....you must not know how to manage money?!?!?!?"
Thoughtful Citizen
6:30 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
JAT - I am relatively certain that I am still on the high road... that is why I call this behavior into question. Many on this site and others have argued that we must argue the facts. Well, now we have a fact to argue and debate that causes many of us to take pause before dismissing. I don't know about many of you, but I have never been arrested and the only thing close to an arrest I have ever had was a speeding ticket thirty years ago that I would be happy to admit to in public.
Illegal is illegal. If the officer thought it was no big deal then why did he even arrest Mr. Markham? If the State's Attorney felt it was nothing, why did he not dismiss the charge? It makes one wonder if a person is willing to knowingly break the law to save money in his personal life, then what will he do with the greater responsibility of other people's money and the public life of our school district. I know that some will blast me for this post, but I have to say that Mr. Markham has lost my vote.
Just A Thought
10:32 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
The personal attack on Mr. Markham is not the 'high' road. Neither is the Email being distributed by Dorelle Ackermann and her pro-ref bunch. What this all boils down to is this is the pro-refs last-huurah to try and get this unpopular and unwarranted referendum to pass. It won't. The fact that they resort to these measures is indicative that they knowthis well. So you are uncomfortable voting for Mr. Markham because of his circumstances, are you comfortable voting for people who stoop to the level of this pro-ref crowd?
Volunteer
7:31 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Kipper first of all I never said that I wasn't going to vote for Markham but with your rude comments you can totally change peoples minds. You are right we should be fighting for kids and that is what I am doing. My mom has to pay for all of her medicine and yes I know the cost because she lives with me and I pick up her medicine on a monthly basis. Mr. Markham has stated his case and yes he was honest so that is all clear. I think you should totally change your attitude because you are really going to sway people away from voting for Mr. Markham. I am not a person to judge until I walked a mile in his shoes.
Katie
7:47 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
I would like for all of the candidates to hold a public meeting so that they can have a question answer session and state what their plans are in public instead of on websites. I have many neighbors and family that do not use the computer regularly. Hearing someone in person and getting your questions answered would be helpful in deciding who to vote for. People that run for public office should be able address the public in some sort of forum. Let me know the date and I will secure the Mokena VFW or a larger building if necessary
Rocco T
7:49 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
That is a great idea Katie.
Volunteer
8:07 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Great Idea. I agree.
Shana Goetz
8:19 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
I also agree, I have many interested neighbors that are relying on word of mouth for most of their information. I'd like to see the candidates get together and organize a date.
poor folk
8:49 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Maybe a dumb question but is Markham & Ford against or for the referendum. Im voting NO to the schools , so I want to make sure I make the right vote for the school board too.
Just A Thought
10:47 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Markham and Ford are AGAINST this referendum.
Seriously?
8:58 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
A public Meet the Candidate Forum, moderated by an unbiased party, is a GREAT idea! Where and when Mokena voters?
Just A Thought
10:33 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Good luck finding an 'un-biased'party.
Mike
9:49 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Have our mayor moderate. He's the most respected person in town.
Seriously?
9:01 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
... Meet the Candidates - All of them. Would the Park District Board allow use of the gym at the Oaks to hold such a thing?
Just A Thought
10:47 pm on Wednesday, March 23, 2011
Actually I think this is a great idea...as long as we have some ground rules.
1. We ask questions pertaining to running the district.
2. The questions will be given to the candidates before hand so that they may prepare their answers.
3. A un-biased moderator will be responsible for asking the questions (good luck finding this person).
These things would ensure that relevant questions for running the district are asked and answered.
Rob Love
7:41 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Make sure their is crowd control, cuz some these people might just bring their anger. Although, I'm sure most of the people on here that are posting horrible mean comments, couldn't look half of you in the eyes and say what is being said on these boards. I understand now what cyber bullying is. In the good old days, we would meet behind the school face to face and take care of our indifference, until of course the principal came running out. Too bad you are all grown ups................ I think. (I'm talking to the apparent bullies on here)
Mike
9:51 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
I agree that there should be crowd control. The union would probably bus in people from Chicago. I will put Al and Jesse up in my house that night.
Joe Spalla
7:56 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
This Friday from 5:30 – 7:00 I plan to be at the 3 on 3 tournament at MJHS please feel free to stop by to meet me and ask me any questions you may have. I also understand Carrie Zakula will be in attendance as well.
Vote yes
8:39 am on Saturday, March 26, 2011
William, Markham and Ford did not need a invite..They could have made plans to come out and talk to the public...
Take some advise from Just a Thought and stop with your nonsense already
William Phelps
11:52 am on Saturday, March 26, 2011
vote yes what do you do for a livign you work for the school right??? union teacher enuff said ???
vote yes
6:30 pm on Sunday, March 27, 2011
Here you go again...trying to attack the messenger and not reposnding to the issue at hand. I simply stated that Markham and Ford COULD have been there if they wanted to be... SO "enuff" hasn't been said. Since you can't respond to my statement...I guess all you felt you could do was try to come up with more nonsense.
Vote Yes
7:27 pm on Monday, March 28, 2011
William..what happened to your 3AM post that bashed Zakula and Spalla for attending the 3 on 3 tournament?
Vote Yes
7:32 pm on Monday, March 28, 2011
Thank you ..for realizing that you shouldn't have posted that
Rob Love
8:06 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Who doesn't go online and shop around for the best deals. More than half of your items in your homes are made in China. You better watch what you buy online, look at and post, this is a good lesson to all. You are being watched! Mokena, we are being scammed out of our children's education. I hope Pat Markham and Mike Ford get on this board, it is apparent that some people involved in scamming us are shaking in their boots! What are you all so afraid of? The truth being revealed? If the TAX INCREASE does get passed, I trust Pat and Mike will be the CHANGE we need! PAT please don't let all of this deter you and Mike send your kids to any school you want! Teachers rarely send their own children to the schools they teach at. All children learn differently, so if your children need a different type of environment for learning, I applaud you for going the extra mile to send them to a school that fits their needs. I am so disappointed at the mismanaging of educational money in our district. Our community is Awesome and I know so many parents would step it up a notch to volunteer more in our schools to help lessen costs. Why not have these administrators earn their top notch pay and start cleaning up after themselves? That would cut costs in the janitorial department. Mom's and Dad's could voluntarily drive the buses. Kids could use the beautiful Mokena library and cut librarian positions. Give kids more Recess and have mom's and dad's voluntarily be recess & lunch monitors.
Rob Love
8:12 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
etc. etc. etc. think outside of the lunch box....... Did anyone else stand outside the school buildings this last year while three alleged murderers were on the loose? I Sure DID, with my younger children. Did anyone else wonder why we were not welcomed into the school Gym or lunchroom or anywhere safe? If it was so immediately threatening to our children that they were to be picked up from school, why were us parents all left to stand in harms way with our little children, outside of these school buildings that we are paying for?
Jim Daniels
9:20 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Sorry Mr. Love. You can't even get the community members or parents to volunteer to chaperone a school dance for the children, to keep them off the streets, how do you think you will get them to volunteer for the positions you are referring to? You may also want to check into the laws dealing with volunteers being in certain positions with access to our children before posting these suggestions. You seemed very concerned about murderers on the loose and possible harm coming to our little children, seems suprising you would just let volunteers have access to your little children every day. The laws governing this were put into effect for a reason, safety of our kids and our district. I'm sure you would be the first to complain if something happened to our children due to the negligence of a parent volunteer. These are the kinds of things you think about and make decisions on when it is your child at risk. Very difficult to consider the repercussions of your decisions when your children are safe in a different school with different rules like Mr. Ford's.
Just A Thought
10:25 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
As I and my spouse volunteer often (as often as the school allows) I take offense to this remark. It shows a compltee lack of consideration or appreciation for all our efforts. Typical "I'm smarter than you", holier-than-thou attitude from your typical pro-ref supporter. HEY PRO-REFs this guy is ONE OF YOURS...DOES HE DO YOU PROUD?!?
Jim Daniels
9:01 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
I can't believe the comments supporting this story. This is a man running for our school board people. A man who is supposed to represent us. The fact is Mr. Markham, by his own admittance, was found guilty of this crime. Fact: He has stated his reason for breaking the law was to save himself money. Put the whole hormone/diabetes debate out of the picture. Focus on what needs to be done for our schools. Our schools need money, the state isn't going to help, we need money to fund programs and keep our district running. Mr. Markham needed money to help pay for his prescription and felt in necessary to break the law to get it. I'm sorry Mr. Markham, but there are many, many laws that a school district has to follow in order to fund their operations. We have to ask ourselves, are we to trust somebody in a board position who has already shown a weakness for breaking the law to get what they need? I could not risk the district or having to pay for legal ramifications of a decision by a board member that feels it's ok to do what you have to because it's too costly to do it the legal way. Yes we should be scared that there are supporters who find it perfectly acceptable to break the law for your own personal gain because you are a senior and on a budget.
Just A Thought
9:17 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Hello pro-ref lemming,
Since you clowns can't argue on the relevent facts and you want to beat this dead horse, I'll oblige you.
You ASSUME that Mr. Markham knowingly, willingly and purposefully, broke the law. You want to frame this as some sort of character flaw and use it to show that Mr. Markham is unfit for office. WRONG !
What happened here is someone who used the internet to do some research, came across a site that was selling meds at discount prices, thought the deal looked good and took a chance. When the truth came to light, Mr. Markham owned up to what he did, becusee he realized that even though he may have been ignorant of the law, (buying the meds online), he still had to pay the consequences. The fact that the charges were reduced to a misdemeanor shows that the state agreed with his assessment. Unlike a lot of people, Mr. Markham took resposibility for his actions and accepted thier consequences this proves HE IS A STAND UP GUY! YES I DO WANT SOMEONE LIKE THIS IN OFFICE - I WISH HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT I'D VOTE FOR HIM IN A MINUTE!!
Just A Thought
9:23 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
AS to the slight against his supporters - You Pro-ref people have resotred toEVERY dirty trick in the book - slander against Mr. Markham and Mr. Ford and thier supporters, stealing political signs out of yards, distrubuting potentially LIBELOUS emails and handouts - I'M SURE that you can all hang your heads PROUD at your accomplishmnets. The fact that you resort to these tactics PROVES that this referendum effort is WITHOUT MERIT. PLease continue with your muck-racking and attacks - the voters of Mokena will see EXACTLY what YOU ARE and WHAT CAUSE YOU REPRESENT.
Shana Goetz
9:13 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
I agree Jim Daniels.
Just A Thought
9:26 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
I'm sure you do....just like a good little lemming...
Rob Love
9:18 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Jim, That is why there are several people on a board and everything has to be voted on. You may come up with stupid ideas and the rest of us on this board, will use our own common sense to say "YAY" or "NAY" LOL When the State fails to provide funding to our school, look at what people are doing: Making BAD CHOICES! People under pressure with no sense of direction or know how are running around crying POOR and firing guns! We are not poor! We just have mishandling of MONEY! STOP CRYING POOR! VOTE for PAT MARKHAM AND MIKE FORD. Everyone I talk to face to face surely is! They love these guys!
Rob Love
9:27 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
I want someone who WILL go against the GRAIN! SWIM UPSTREAM! Not fall into people's OPINIONS and definitely, I want someone who is not worried about always being politically Correct! You people on here starting this stuff, won't and are not making or breaking this election! Being politically correct means having no Voice. We want a VOICE a LOUD VOICE for our Children!! GO MARKHAM & FORD!!!
Rob Love
9:32 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
PS. I REMEMBER WARNINGS ON THE NEWS, ABOUT ORDERING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS ONLINE, I'm sorry Pat that you fell victim to this.
When you order from websites online, they never have DISCLAIMERS that say: OH BY THE WAY, IF YOU ORDER THROUGH OUR COMPANY, YOU WILL BE ARRESTED! THEY JUST WANT YOUR MONEY AND ORDER!
Volunteer
9:34 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Lets stop bashing FORD AND MARKHAM. Everyone of us make mistakes in our lives and no one is perfect except GOD. This whole post should be about our children and what is best for the kids. We need to worry about our children as they come first. Vote for whoever you feel is going to be best for the position. Enough about MARKHAM and what he did or what he didn't do lets get back on the subject of our children. GOD is a forgiving GOD and what happened is over and done with. Lets stop bashing each other as well. We are seriously all adults and lets start to act like them. Vote which ever way you want to vote and quit cutting down people for the way that they want to vote. LETS JUST PUT THE KIDS AND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT FIRST. You have the choice to either vote for MARKHAM or vote for someone else. I think everyone should start saying prayers for our district and lets hope and pray for the best.
Rob Love
10:00 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
YES!!! AMEN!!! YOU GO! BEST THING I'VE READ ON ANY OF THESE BOARDS!!! GOD IS AWESOME! HE IS IN CONTROL!
Rob Love
9:35 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
JIM DANIELS, YOU KNOW SO MUCH, YOU MUST BE A TEACHER.
Rob Love
9:37 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
YOU ALSO UNDERESTIMATE US PARENTS. THIS IS THE TYPICAL ATTITUDE OF PEOPLE WORKING IN OUR SCHOOLS.
Rob Love
10:08 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
"You can't even get the community members or parents to volunteer to chaperone a school dance for the children, to keep them off the streets, how do you think you will get them to volunteer for the positions you are referring to? " -Jim Daniels (MJHS TEACHER)
**************WOW, thanks for insulting all the parents AND community members of DISTRICT 159.
WHY DON'T YOU STOP COMMENTING ON THIS BOARD AND GET BACK TO TEACHING OUR CHILDREN, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PAYING YOU FOR.
Jim Daniels
11:36 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
LOL, wow Mr. Love, that maturity degraded fast. Sorry if I offended you by my letter. My intent was to inform you that there are factual reasons the school board has to act the way it does at times and many of these 'out of the box' ideas will be squashed when having to adhere to the law. Since you like your facts I thought my observation of the facts considering lack of volunteers at school dances would be an eye opener for you in consideration of your ideas. Did not intend to insult parents or the community as there are quite a few members in each group who I look up to for devoting so much of their free time towards other activities in the district. If you think my profession is a teacher and I work for any school district, then you have jumped to an erroneous conclusion. I am just a parent who actually took the time to get informed on the facts. But you yourself have shown the community and parents of the district your complete lack of respect for the people teaching your children. I want the best teachers available teaching my children, I guess you would settle for a minimum wage babysitter. And just to clarify, you pay taxes, you don't pay the salaries of teachers, fireman or even police officers and your name isn't on the payroll checks. Maybe that means I'm a police officer now. LOL. Hint: don't forget to check the time stamp before making accusations. Have a nice day.
Rob Love
11:47 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
The tax payers, pay taxes and that money goes to paying all of those government, community service salaries you listed. Yes we do pay teachers, firemen, and police officers. Homeowners, Employees and Business Owners PAY tax after tax after tax FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, SALES, TOLLS what other taxes am I forgetting??. Where did you think the money comes from? Giving people tickets for speeding?
Rob Love
11:54 am on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Too bad this administration is firing the teachers. Also, it is easy to run background checks on volunteers and very inexpensive.
It is easy to jump to erroneous conclusions isn't it? Just as so many are doing on these boards. So, I wonder how many people think you are a teacher now? Just as someone called Pat Markham a convicted Felon... SO ERRONEOUS!
Rob Love
12:00 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Sorry if I offended you for calling you a teacher. It is crazy how easy it is to jump to conclusions based on half information and others just go along with what is being said.
Rob Love
12:02 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Jim,
When this is all said and done, I may request an appointment with your brother Jack! LOL
Jim Daniels
4:04 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
LOL, no brothers, just sisters but none are named Jackie.
Kipper
12:52 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Has anyone stopped to think about this? Why is it if you have a prescription from a medical doctor, you can't go out of the country to buy it?, Why is it illegal? It be one thing if your filling prescriptions you have no medical need or script for, but if you had one why?, Why is it parents volunteering is such a liability? Assuming background checks are done on these parents and school conduct rules are fallowed. I know, I have an idea because Pharmaceutical companies and teacher unions give huge donations every year to politicians. These politicians turn around make laws. Laws that protect these two from us the consumer. They don't need to be competitive in todays world no one can demand it. The ways around these companies and unions is either unethical or illegal! Some times we need to stop and think of the hole picture, morality is something you can not govern. Someday whenever you have time look at what some countries deem illegal. I'm sure there would be many of us that would stop and say really?
Thoughtful Citizen
1:56 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Sadly, I don't think I will post any more to this site. I have always thought that honest discourse is the way things should be debated. These posts have become nothing short of dispicable. The name calling and attacks one those who post have not been beneficial to anyone. This is an example of the worst Mokena has to offer and we should all be ashamed of those who have been so venemous with our neighbors. This is an example of why Mokena is becoming the laughing stock of the area. My parting comment is simply that each person who has posted or reads this thread consider how we would act if our children acted this way. I think most of us would be appalled with this behavior out of our children and I think our children would be just as appalled with us if they understood what was going on.
Dee Miller
2:11 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
Funny thing, most of what you just said, is exactly what I wanted to say to You in your post on the other page.
we should all be ashamed of those who have been so venomous with our neighbors
If you thought this way your other post on the other page would not be there
Just A Thought
4:04 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
To My fellow posters at the Patch ;
In the past weeks (months?), There has been a constant battle between the Pro-referendum residents and the Anti-referendum residents. There has been a lot of nastiness and bad blood. I have had a big part in this. I have said (typed) some truly nasty comments to a lot of you, and I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely apologize for my words. I am not apologizing for my stance or for my support of Mr. Markham and Mr. Ford, they are both very good men, but I am apologizing for the way that I went about supporting them. I have no explanation other than I got caught up in the heat of the battle - I lost sight of doing the right thing while trying to prove that my point was right. Some posters tried to tell me (Thoughtful Citizen – with his ‘high-road’ post, others as well), but I was too caught up too listen. My self-revelation came when my wife finally told me that she was ashamed of me for how I was writing.
She reminded me that when this is over, we are all going to have to live together, and it will not be possible if this continues. She is/was right. She was not the first person to tell me this, but she is the one that made it stick. I thank her for this.
Just A Thought
4:05 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
We are going to disagree – that is bound to happen – but we need to be respectful and courteous when we do so. Some may think me weak for saying this or that I am a quitter – I am neither, I just will not participate in the baiting and pettiness anymore. It is wrong, I was wrong to participate.
To my anti-ref friends and comrades, my stance has not changed – you have and always will have my support.
To the pro ref supporters, again I offer my deepest and most sincere apologies.
I am going to take a break from posting for awhile, I’ll probably watch but not participate.
Please learn from my mistakes.
Sincerely,
Just A Thought
happy and content
4:09 pm on Thursday, March 24, 2011
That was very nice "Just A Thought".....appreciate what you said. :)
Rocco T
7:16 pm on Sunday, March 27, 2011
Another very enlightening article on Patrick Markham. http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/news/4508271-418/candidate-hgh-was-for-diabetes.html
dismayed
8:31 pm on Sunday, March 27, 2011
HGH is classified as a controlled substance because of its known abuses. Buying HGH on-line illegally proliferates and supports an industry which preys on our children and young adults, making its profit off the illegal abuses of HGH and steroids. Simply put: Illegal use of HGH/Steroids is wrong. Illegal possession of HGH/Steroids is wrong. Illegal purchase of HGH/Steroids is wrong. Mr. Markham, please do not try to rationalize it by portraying yourself as a poor uninformed senior, you have proven yourself to be a seasoned politician. Your son Rory is a professional ultimate fighter. A profession wherein the abuse of steroids is well documented. I find it inconceivable that you were unaware of the laws given that your professional son advised you to obtain the drugs. HGH is predominately prescribed to children with stunted growth from pituitary disorders. What do you say to those families whose cost to legally obtain this needed drug for their child is increased because persons like yourself support this illegal industry? What happened to the Marine motto “ Protect those who cannot protect themselves.”
Jimshoe
6:36 am on Monday, March 28, 2011
WRONG HGH is a HORMONE prescribed IN HORMONE THERAPY, PRESCRIBED! There are many doctors and then complete facilities that provide HORMONE therapy. Unfortunately not many people know of this avenue of medicine somewhat new, at least newer than leeches.
WHY do you attack a man, now a son, now the marines.? Are you that afraid to let the candidates run on the issues and or oopss the other candidates DONT take a stand on the issues, no they wear costumes and give speeches at pro referendum rallies, thats the ticket for sure, yup lets keep bashing , probably the only GOOD candidate or candidates Markham and Ford , while the others sit and campaign on school grounds. WOO WOW, sure it makes all the sense in the world.
Dee Miller
8:54 pm on Sunday, March 27, 2011
How many email addresses does the same person have to make up to keep changing their names and post all the crud that they do?
Here is some reading material.
http://www.thegrowthhormone.com/diabetes-hgh.html
Read up on it, it is not unheard of!
This is just ridiculous, grow up and stop trying to degrade this man!
Jimshoe
6:46 am on Monday, March 28, 2011
also try this link
www.childrenfirst159.com
interesting, seems to do alot for Kids and seniors , helping those that cant help themselves...
no wonder we cant find or get good candidates to run for office , we hang em high and let the administration backed and vanilla , tell em what they want to hear, just slide in because the good guy has stinky feet. Didnt we see enough of this in the last governer election, NO issues just slam the candidate. Why are the other two Administration candidates running this sort of smear strategy???
YeP they are a part of the group that is posting all this twisted nonsense
dismayed
4:49 pm on Monday, March 28, 2011
Pat Markham this is not a trivial thing, it is not jaywalking or a traffic ticket as you indicated. Your continued attempts to rationalize this is abhorent. HGH is legally synonmous with steroids. Can you not realize that what you did supports an illegal industry that screws up kids? You illegally purchased drugs, an expellable offense for our children.
Sec. 402. Except as otherwise authorized by this Act, it is unlawful for any person knowingly to possess a controlled or counterfeit substance or controlled substance analog. A violation of this Act with respect to each of the controlled substances listed herein constitutes a single and separate violation of this Act. For purposes of this Section, "controlled substance analog" or "analog" means a substance which is intended for human consumption, other than a controlled substance, that has a chemical structure substantially similar to that of a controlled substance in Schedule I or II, or that was specifically designed to produce an effect substantially similar to that of a controlled substance in Schedule I or II. ….. For purposes of this Act, a controlled substance analog shall be treated in the same manner as the controlled substance to which it is substantially similar. (d) Any person who violates this Section with regard to any amount of anabolic steroid is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor for the first offense and a Class B misdemeanor for a subsequent offense committed within 2 years of a prior conviction.
Dee Miller
6:26 pm on Monday, March 28, 2011
Dismayed-- did you find all that information on the pamphlet that came with your xanax perscription you just picked up or what? Drop it already! Your personal attacks against this man are getting you no where!
dismayed
8:28 pm on Monday, March 28, 2011
I quoted the exact law under which Mr. Markham was convicted. I don't care what he was using the stuff for, its irrelevant. Its an illegal on-line industry that preys on children and young adults. HGH/Steroid abuse is a huge problem in this country; law enforcement bans its illegal use, all major sports are banning it, high schools ban it, colleges ban it. His son Rory is in an industry, ultimate fighting, wherein the abuses are rampant. Nate Diaz, Rory’s former opponent, responded in an interview recently about UFC fighter Chael Sonnen’s recent failed Performance Enhancing Drug test.
Nate Diaz:
“Not a surprise. It’s not that he’s on steroids but all these guys are on steroids. So can’t be a surprise when somebody pops up on steroids. It usually is surprising when someone doesn’t pop up on steroids.” .
Even those in his son’s profession are abusing this drug. How can Mr. Markam be so darn cavalier about his illegal procurement of this drug? This is a serious, serious offense, based upon his comments here and in the Southtown blog Mr. Markham is in denial. This is my last comment. I remain dismayed.