Mokena Man Charged in Double-Fatal DUI: UPDATED
Joseph Slattery, 25, has been charged with six counts of aggravated driving under the influence, Sun-Times Media is reporting.
Update: According to the Illinois Victim Notification System, Joseph Slattery bonded out of the Will County Jail before 1 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 30. His next court date is Sept. 19.
Joseph Slattery, 25, of Mokena, had drugs and alcohol in his system and a 1-year-old in his car when he crashed into an oncoming car Sunday night, killing two senior citizens, according to a report by Sun-Times Media.
According to the Sun-Times report, Slattery was driving a 2001 Chevrolet Cavalier south on U.S. 45 near Peotone with a 24-year-old female and a 1-year-old male passenger on Sunday. Shortly before 8 p.m., he crossed the center line and crashed head-on into a northbound 2004 Cavalier, the report said.
Margaret Simons, 72, of Rolling Meadows, was pronounced dead at the scene shortly before 10 p.m., the Will County Coroner's Office said.
According to the Sun-Times report, Simons' 92-year-old passenger, Suzanne Thomson, was pronounced dead at Provena St. Mary’s Hospital in Kankakee. Another 42-year-old passenger suffered serious, non-life-threatening injuries, an officer said.
The Will County State's Attorney's Office could not be immediately reached for comment Monday night.
Illinois State Police are investigating.
This story will be updated as it develops.
Grunt
1:29 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
A morons mistake cost two people their lives. I hope the idiot rots in jail.
POLISHROXSTAR
8:14 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Before you go pointing your finger find out the whole story, for all you know this elderly person could of caused the whole accident. For all you know it could of been 2 drinks. I myself had gotten a DUI in 2007 off of 2 beers, why because law is quick to give DUI's even when there isnt one. Yes I have learned my lesson since but dont be quick to judge, when all you have to go off is the news, not facts
POLISHROXSTAR
8:55 am on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
And one more thing, have some decency for the family of this young man. I think they have enough on their mind and your 2 cents doesn't help
Frank
12:45 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Do you know this guy? You must, because I can't imagine any other reason why you would defend the man who "crossed the center line" with drugs and alcohol in his system and try to find some way to blame the other driver who is now dead because of this piece of s***. As for your opinion that the law is quick to give duis where there isn't one, the law is pretty straightforward. If you're over 0.08 then you are driving under the influence. End of story.You conveniently fail to mention he also had drugs in his system. And one more thing, how about YOU have some decency for the families of the people he killed and injured and not suggest that they some how caused the accident.
Paul Dailing
1:30 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Just want to remind you that our terms of use prohibit so-called "masked profanity." You can refresh yourself on the terms of use here: http://www.patch.com/terms
It's not what you're saying. It's how you're saying it.
Pamela
1:34 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
I am the "elderly driver's" insurance agent. We have written this lady's car insurance for like, a decade, and as far as I'm aware she never had a ticket or an accident during that time. How DARE anyone accuse her of causing the accident! It was the drunk "young driver" who came over the center line & murdered two people!
Pamela
1:42 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Quoting from the August 29th edition of "The Southtown Star"...
"Slattery and his two passengers — a 24-year-old woman and a 1-year-old boy — were taken to Riverside Hospital in Kankakee, where they were treated for minor injuries, according to state police. Slattery’s been ticketed previously in Will County for several traffic offenses, including speeding, operating an uninsured vehicle and driving on a suspended license. He’s also been in trouble for offenses related to possessing alcohol as a minor, illegal transportation of alcohol and providing alcohol to minors, according to court records."
Yes, let's be VERY CAREFUL not to "misjudge" Mr Slattery, who chose to drive under the influence of alcohol & drugs with a ONE YEAR BABY in HIS car, and then chose to cross the center line & murder two innocent people. I am sure he's really a lovely person, who "just made a mistake". At least, that's what his public defender will try to make us believe.
Sue N.
3:35 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Please pass my condolences along to their families.
Let this be a lesson to anyone who thinks they are "ok to drive". First, if you're responsible for driving anyone else, especially a child, why risk losing them or anyone else. But even if you're not driving anyone else... Step up...be a man or woman and hand the keys over....or maybe...don't drink or take anything before getting behind a wheel. Every person convicted of a DUI always thinks they're "ok to drive"...but yet these accident happen that not only ruin their lives, but often ends someone elses. It's just not worth it for those few hours of intoxication.
Sandy
4:00 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
How DARE anyone say that this is murder. You do not have the facts of everything you are just stating a personal opinion. So since you are her agent have you personally driven with your "elderly" client. I DON'T THINK SO! Are you aware that maybe her eyesight or another medical condition may have played part in this? (not saying it did, just an example) By the way a .09 BAC is hardly drunk although illegal it doesn't mean the person is falling down, can't speak, or swerving into traffic. Maybe you should shut your mouth and get the facts before you speak!
Oh Please
7:19 am on Saturday, September 24, 2011
@ Sandy, He might as well have pulled the trigger of a gun by getting in and driving a car with drugs and alcohol in his sytem...yes it is murder.
Heather DeVries Ferraro
2:48 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
People who judge others are no better! I will pray he gets what he did killing 2 people but I will also pray for him to over come the addiction problem he has. Myself am in recovery and thank God I never hurt or killed anyone but I could have. He has learned his lesson a very hard way, but he is a person and that needs help!
Pamela
3:07 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
To "judge" is to view a neutral action, and put then a negative spin on it. No one here is doing that.
It is NOT neutral to take opiates, unless those have been prescribed by a doctor. It is NOT neutral to be so drunk behind the wheel that you can't tell what side of the center line you are on. It is NOT neutral to drink and then drive a car with passengers in it, especially when one of those passengers is one year old (aka "child endangerment"). It is NOT neutral to kill two people & injure a third person while you're driving with no insurance coverage.
Those are NOT neutral actions. They are ILLEGAL actions. They are actions that suggest callous disregard for the lives & safety of other people. That's not judging, any more than it's judging to call light "light" and call dark "dark".
Sandy
3:54 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
I think people should mind their own business. No one, not one person, besides those involved truly know what happened. What happened is a tragedy and it's something no one should have to deal with. The media makes a report but doesn't always have the facts straight. I am almost with 100% certainty sure that EVERYBODY at some point in time has driven after having a couple drinks and should not point fingers. Yes, .09 is above the limit and illegal but we all know that most times that person is not falling down drunk or swerving through traffic. As for the drugs in his system, the media doesn't report whether they are prescribed do they? This is a tragedy for both families involved and people should back off until they really know for sure what the facts are. Who is to say witnesses haven't come forward since Sunday night and state that the woman crossed the center line not him. As for his prior offenses, just because someone has had a speeding ticket or at one time didn't have insurance on their vehicle doesn't mean that this was done out of ignorance or malice. He is NOT murderer. Murder is when you INTEND on killing someone, an accident is something that is not planned. I am sure that when he left with his child in the car he did not INTEND to murder 2 innocent people nor put his son in danger. People really need to evaluate themselves before they go and judge other people.
Pamela
4:33 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
"Just because someone has had a speeding ticket or at one time didn't have insurance...." -- my dear, YOU are the one who needs to get the facts before posting.
His priors include "...in trouble for offenses related to possessing alcohol as a minor, illegal transportation of alcohol and providing alcohol to minors, according to court records" [per Monday's article in "The Southtown Star"], and another article states that he was ticketed at the scene on SUNDAY NIGHT for driving w/no insurance and for "improper lane", in addition to various counts of aggravated DUI.
As for the legal definition of murder (in its various degrees)...
1st degee....preplanned with intent
2nd degree....unplanned but with malice
3rd degree.....manslaghter....unplanned, no intent, but oops.
Third degree MURDER, Unplanned, but "oops". Of course, mixing opiates (prescribed or not) with liquor, and then getting behind the wheel of a car, it that really an "OOOPS"? Or is it more like being a scofflaw? "I don't care how this might affect others, I just want to drive my car right now, even tho I'm in no condition."
My client had no tickets or accidents for YEARS. The other party in question has a laundry list of priors. And you want to insinuate that SHE was contributory in this? REALLY?!
Kendall
8:30 pm on Sunday, September 18, 2011
Well, your right. People should mind their own business, but unfortunately once it's released into the public it is everyone's business. I think that's something you need to keep in mind. Your also right about the only people who were involved know what truly happened, but unfortunately in a situation like this it doesn't matter. Does it matter what EVERYONE else did or is going to do? No, it doesn't. We aren't looking at everyone else here, just the directly involved. Prescription drugs or not is not even a question...Point of that is even if it was prescribed; drugs of that class are strong enough to impair driving or any task that takes a bit focusing. There are quite a few previous offenses that are going to play into the charges of this man. That's the way some judges work; as well as the jury. This isnt a judgement call.
Casey Foster
3:55 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
I think we're confusing "judging" and "condemnation". The word judge has become a four letter word in this country. We have to make judgements all of the time, whether it be what to wear in the morning or when to not get behind the wheel after drinking/drug use. That young man made very bad judgement in what he did! I would not appologize about judging his actions. Having said that, it is not my place to condemn him and I do hope he gets the help he needs. My heart goes out to the elderly people who probably used very good judgement their whole lives while driving ("judging" by their driving record). Thank God that little one year old was not hurt!
POLISHROXSTAR
5:45 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
If we are going off of prior convictions then you might as well use her past accident(s). As for being a friend does it really matter? I dont like fingers being pointed, just because someone has a DUI doesnt make them a monster. I assume none of you has ever had a drink, shot, glass, WHATEVER and got behind the wheel. Just an FYI it only takes 1 1/2 drinks to be over the legal limit and that includes the 20 minute duration for it to make it inro your system. Its funny how the elderly never do anything wrong when it comes to driving. How about the 82yr old man who hitand killed a motorcyclist in Cedar Lake on Saturday. He had a clean record too, but its ok cause hes old.
What happen doesnt make any of this right, but you are judging him. Sorry not everyone is as perfect as you or the women killed. But there was a baby involved, but not many people look at that. Just because he was released from the hospital doesnt mean injuries can show later in in life. Those women lived their life sorry it ended the way it did. But if you dont personally know Joey then you have no room to talk about him. And yes he is my friend and a great guy at that! He is by far the monster that YOU and the MEDIA are making him out to be
Suzy Simons
2:20 am on Wednesday, September 7, 2011
One more thing, Polishrockstar, for someone who expressed sorrow on the Daily Herald page to me and my family, you sure don't know when to stop. You just kept on raving on about my grandma, and how they both "lived their lives." I think that's pretty counter productive. If someone wants our forgiveness, they must first ask for it. That would be the first step. No one ever said he did this with intent. Mistakes do happen, but with every action there is a consequence. He has to pay for what he's done, because no matter what, he was wrong. At some point he will have his chance to explain himself, and to expess his remorse to everyone he hurt that day. Until then, you shouldn't speak for him. You're only making things harder than what they have to be.
Paul Dailing
12:40 pm on Thursday, September 15, 2011
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john bruno
6:13 pm on Tuesday, August 30, 2011
Sandy....There is no doubt you are related to Slattery.
He'll be charged with at least 2 counts of reckless homicide which has mandatory penalties of 3 years to 8 years.
What you need to understand and what many people don't seem to understand is that drunk driving is not a defense to anything. You choose to get drunk. You choose to get into that car.
Even if he has the best lawyer in the world, he's going to jail for 6 to 16 years. End of story.
monrealj4
2:10 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
There will be jail...there will be people who don't know the whole story. There will be people who are quick to judge and point fingers at a newspaper story. There will also be actual people...people whose lives got ruined. Those who were so undeservedly killed, and those who have to wake up every day and know that their mistake caused that. Those women lost their lives...their family lost their loved ones. It's undeniably horrific. But that doesn't make it ok to pass judgement or rejoicde over the hurt of the others involved. That young family is destroyed too. That young man will go to jail. For several years at least. But he doesn't need jail or people who apparently are in a position to pass judgement or decide who is or isn't a good person based on nothing but a newspaper article. I don't defend or agree with what happened...at all. I also hope that none of these people who are so quick to spout hatred and wish ill will upon someone they know nothing about never wake up one day and find out that their child. Sibling, friend, loved one, etc. has made a very costly mistake. I suppose that none of you have ever lived through something like that...watching someone you care about and know is a good human being be labeled for one occurance. I am not discounting what was really lost here....in fact, the opposite. There were more than two lives lost here. And all of the name calling and jail time in the world won't compare to what he will undoubtedly live with forever.
Ashley
2:10 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
First of all Pamela who are you to pull up My cousins record( yes I said cousin I am related to him) I honestly don't think that's any of your business..second of all to call him these dirty names is down right disgusting and I'd like if you kept those names to yourself. Third of all he is not a monster he is the most sweetest caring guy you will ever meet. You'd guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Weve all made bad choices one point in our life..And Pamela i don't like you very much! Ms high and mighty insurance lady. You of all people need to be ashamed of yourself...if anyone's the monster here it's you..
Pamela
10:07 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
I didn't research his record -- it's all over the internet. The MEDIA pulled up his record. A record that shows a history of liquor in a vehicle and other liquor related offenses. Committed by a sweet, caring guy who mixed opiates & liquor, then put a woman & a baby into his car, and drove that car over the center line, going fast enough to total another car & kill two people. These are not mistakes. They are poor choices, and his poor choices have killed other people. But WE should be ashamed of ourselves. Mr Slattery shouldn't be ashamed of himself, nor should his family be ashamed... he's just a sweet caring guy.
Mom4
10:20 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Oh my...she drove my son to Kirk for many, many years. Probably 10 years. She also had a handicapped son like I do. She was a mentor, friend and all out wonderful person. From the vicinity of the accident and the fact that her son was also in the car, she was probably picking him and/or taking him back to the home that housed him.
Mom4
10:21 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
i posted that from another website So much time devoted to criminals and not the victims
jacob d
10:23 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
bet me all of his friends/family wouldn't be saying all of this if his kid and/or girlfriend was killed. booze+alcohol=a dumbass move. both those parents should be charged with multiple counts of child endangerment.
Jonathan Thompkins
9:39 am on Thursday, September 15, 2011
exactly! take that kid away from that girl!
Pamela
11:28 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Yes, it was Ms Simon's handicapped son that was the rear seat passenger. He survived the accident, and is in the hospital with a serious (tho not life-threatening) injury. A handicapped man, who now no longer has his mom. All because someone chose to mix narcotics & booze, and then get behind the wheel of a car. A "sweet, caring guy" whose poor choices/actions have really created havoc for someone else's family.
Ashley
11:54 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Before pointing fingers get the story straight! Pamela you were not at the scene of the accident. Idc if his past Is in the news papers..I seen it. And for you tp blast my cousin all over this page is rude...there are people who don't even know the story yet. And your sitting here and him
Out on blast.. Ok so you had the elderly lady for a decade you said. Who's to say she hasn't had accidents before you became her insurance lady? Yes it's sad the 2 lady's died. But don't you think he has enough stress from you and everyone else. Yes he does not only him but all of us. So please keep your comments to yourself.
Ashley
11:55 am on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
And Pamela your creating havoc for our family as well..
Sandy
12:13 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Personally Pamela, you are supposed to be a professional and should keep your mouth shut. Since you are a google queen did you happen to research what opiates are? MOST of them are prescription drugs and the media didnt report whether or not he was prescribed those medicines. Also, the media didnt report he had a 0.09 BAC FAR FROM WASTED, but since you live in a bubble, I am sure you have have never smoked, drank, probably still a virgin, never taken medicine, or had any life(as is clearly shown). Lay off this kid, I hope you are a parent who one day has to bail your kid out of jail or pick them up from a party the cops have busted. The most important part of the whole thing is NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED EXCEPT THE PEOPLE THERE. SO BACK OFF LADY CUZ ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!
Pamela
1:27 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
When you have a PRESCRIPTION for opiate/narcotic painkillers, the bottle usually has a label saying "don't drive or operate heavy machinery while taking", and also usually a label saying "don't mix w/alcohol".
So YES, dear, I am familiar with what opiates are. But thanks for bringing that point up. Maybe it will save someone else from making the poor choice of taking opiates, and then drinking, and then driving.
Here's another public service announcement: the limit used to be o.10. It was lowered a few years back to o.08 because people who know a lot more than you or I, had researched it. They found that people's ability to drive was impaired at o.08. So, is it possible that o.09 is too "affected" (since he wasn't "wasted"), to be able to keep a car under control? Wait -- two people are dead -- it would appear that o.09 just MIGHT be too "affected" to be driving, especially if there are other items rattling around in one's bloodstream at the same time.
But if the newspapers, the other news sites, and the judge who set his bail at $350,000 are ALL WRONG, and NO ONE has the right story, then PLEASE. Get the people who WERE there to tell us what "really" happened. I would be the first person to apologize if the TRUTH is that your friend/family member didn't really do anything wrong or illegal.
Of course, we can only get one or two people's side of the story. Because the other half of the people were killed. Killed by someone who was "far from wasted".
Paul Dailing
12:17 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
From this moment on, all personal insults will immediately be deleted. Some people lost a friend. Some people have a loved one who will likely be going away for a long time. I ask all of you to remember that two people are dead and many lives are ruined by this, so please don't make it your business to add hate and anger to an already terrible situation.
Pamela
12:32 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
His "stress" is what he EARNED from the actions he chose to take. And what exactly is it about the story that I don't have straight? The story is in MANY newspapers, I am not making any of it up. Ten papers, and who knows HOW MANY other internet news site, all telling the same story. He doesn't come out as a victim of mistaken facts, on ANY of those news outlets. Do you really believe, that NO ONE of those news outlets has gotten the story straight?
BUT if that is the case, PLEASE, get his statement. And tell us all what the truth REALLY is.
The only "havoc" has been created by HIS actions. The stress HIS family is experiencing was created by what HE chose to do. NOT by what me (and all the other people) might choose to say about it.
It's wonderful that you love your family member, dear -- really, it is, I'm not being sarcatic about that -- but it's very odd that you are defending his actions. His actions are undefensible. It would be much more honest, and more realistic, to say "I love my cousin, but he did a very bad thing".
Does it even really REGISTER with you, that two people are DEAD because of him? How would you feel if it had been someone else doping & drinking & driving, and not in control of their vehicle, and came over the center line & hit HIM head on? How would you feel if someone had hit HIM and killed him & his lady friend? Would you be talking about what "a sweet, caring" person the other driver was? I mean, REALLY?!
POLISHROXSTAR
1:44 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
I would love to know what agency you work for and their policy on speaking on behalf of your client in a situation you have nothing to do with. Snd not only adding hid business but your clients as well
Pamela
2:20 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Yesterday morning, you stated that the accident was possibly caused by the victim (one of the ladies that was killed). I answered you by stating that her EXCELLENT driving record would NOT back up that interpretation of the facts. Am pretty sure I won't be professionally censured for that. The only other information I've discussed, had already been previously stated by others on the internet. Pretty sure the victim's family won't be taking action against me for any of the POSITIVE things I've said about her.
"A situation I have nothing to DO with"-?? I am the one who took the death claim. You should try that sometime: knowing a person for years, helping them insure & take care of their important stuff, and then one day getting a phone call from their next of kin, telling you that they've been tragically killed in their car, and is there anything in the insurance policy that can help the surviving family to pay for a double funeral.
I have only had to take a few death claims over the course of my 20+ year insurance career, and I'm thankful for that. It's traumatizing each time it happens.
NOW who sounds like the unsympathetic one? That would be YOU. Let me guess: you didn't realize that there are real people who these deaths have affected.
Emily
2:35 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
You are not very professional. Stop bashing on him. We all know what happened. You don't have to reminds us. And stop putting my cousin on blast..please and thank you. If your so sad then you need to morn and stop reminding us... Accidents happen.and yes it's a tragic loss that I wish on anyone but you Have gone to far.
Pamela
2:55 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Honey, I am sorry for your family's grief in all of this. I, however, am not the one who "put him on blast" -- the NEWS did that. I have not called him names (as some other post-ers have done), but I HAVE pointed out that this was NOT an accident. It was a series of poorly thought-out choices that were made, and those poor choices led to a very sad end.
If one good thing could come out of this, let's hope that people read this, and realize that their choices have consequences. Consequences that can affect them and everyone around them in very negative ways, for a LONG time.
Is THAT unprofessional, too?
POLISHROXSTAR
3:26 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Quoting Pamela "My client had no tickets or accidents for YEARS." That my friend doesn't mean EXCELLENT driving record. You my friend not only said this was intentional and he purposely chose to drive over the line, so yes that is bashing. He had no intention on harming anyone. So YES it is an ACCIDENT
POLISHROXSTAR
3:39 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
AND ONE MORE THING MRS I KNOW EVERYTHING, Just because she was your client for years still doesn't make you family. So yes you are in violation if HIPPA and can lose your license. Just because you are an agent doesn't make you above the law or privacy acts. Im pretty sure if they look at the history on your computer you have looked into Slattery's background since you do have the software to do so.
And as far as death goes, people die every day, from accidents, illness, murder,over doses, suicide etc.... But I'm unsympathetic ?? No dear its called a realist, because it is apart of life and it does happen. Do you blame God and point fingers at him when its a situation that couldn't be avoided????? NO BECAUSE ITS LIFE.. We never said it wasnt a tragedy, you act as if him and his family is happy go lucky singing, smiling, and whistling. NO they aren't. They are devastated. It wasn't premeditated, it wasn't planned, it wasn't intentional, IT WAS AN ACCIDENT. Maybe you should look the word up....
Pamela
4:00 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Actually, all I have done is read the news reports, and quote what the news is saying. I did not run a backround check, nor DO I have the software to investigate anyone's backround/arrest record. I would not even be able to run a motor vehicle report (list of prior tickets & accidents) without a date of birth and a driver's license number, which I don't have. I really DON'T go around running "checks" on random people -- I just read the news. So come on over, check the history on my computer -- you will NOT find what you have surmised.
And of course, YOU were not bashing anyone when you suggested (one of the first posts in this thread) that it was the "elderly driver who could of caused the accident". Sir, whether you want to admit it or NOT, you threw the first punch.
scott
3:53 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
i know him def. NOT persciption drugs!!
POLISHROXSTAR
4:18 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
"for all you know this elderly person could of caused the whole accident". Is what I said as a "what if" I added other "what if's" if you read the whole thing.
Geroge marsales
4:35 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Well said polishroxstar!
And Scott ad far ad you know..you must like to argue don't you? And if your so close to her your client you shouldn't put her driving record out as well..common sense. Things happen. He's not a murder stop acting like he did this on purpose. He would never put himself his gf or baby in danger...whos to say the old lady dint have s seizure like some eye witnesses have said.. Ever think no you didn't...
Suzy Simons
11:55 am on Monday, October 3, 2011
You have a lot of nerve. So instead of having Slattery take the blame, as he rightfully should, not only are you going to defend him, but you're going to turn this around on the victims. You're blaming the people who lost their lives, who are not here to defend themselves. I can see you have no respect for human life, especially when you refer to my dead grandma as "the old lady."
Pamela
4:43 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
If she DID have a seizure, that could come out in the coroner's inquest. I will be the FIRST person to apologize to the other driver, if that indeed is the case. Of course, it's not HER car that went over the center line, from what the news reports have said. And so far, she hasn't tested positive for alcohol or drugs.
Geroge marsales
4:50 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
You are very rude i think you owe the whole family an apology. Y don't you worry about yourself. And not these family's. And stop blasting this man. Is like to know what insurance company you work for. You must have alot of time on your hands mrs.
POLISHROXSTAR
4:51 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
It takes 48-72 hours to determin cause of death, and you are going off of news reports.... Thought you said next of kin called you?
I like how you throw drugs out there not knowing if the narcotic was in fact prescription... Again bashing. Not knowing all the facts... Did you bring your umbrella the weather in the paper said it was suppise to rain today
POLISHROXSTAR
4:52 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Oh and Pamela Im a woman, not a man....
Pamela
5:17 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Sorry, we'll switch that to "ma'am", please excuse me. It very well COULD have been a prescription, but when strong painkillers are prescribed, the labels on the bottle usually say "don't use these & drive", and usually also say "don't combine w/alcohol", because alcohol intensifies the effect of the narcotic, and it's dangerous for the person who takes them together.
And yes, I have gotten all of my "hard" info off of the news reports. [I would say "facts", but you are right, news isn't always 100%.] And yes, I have spoken w/the next of kin. He didn't have a lot of detailed information about the accident yet, when we spoke. He was rather busy, trying to get a double funeral arranged.
Geroge marsales
5:05 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Exactly.. Cant always believe what the papers tell you.. Hey did you know pigs can fly??
Paul Dailing
5:11 pm on Wednesday, August 31, 2011
Again, I would like to urge all of you to remember two people are dead. Please act like adults or comments will be disabled for this article. I don't ask that you all agree. I ask that you respect the feelings of those who are mourning the dead.
Sunchild
7:51 am on Thursday, September 1, 2011
This is a tragedy! Joe and his family will LIVE with this FOR THE REST of their lives. Those families will bury their loved ones. ALL families are going through a great ordeal of pain and loss! Weather or not, he crossed the line, or she had a seizure.. they will CONTINUE to live w/ this, as the NON FAMILY members here BASHING and JUDGING will NOT. The Media covers what they are told, and if you read, they are STILL investigating but this will NOT change either families lives! The Media never tells full truthes and most of the time get the stories wrong, or sway it the way they WANT it to read. So if you pass judgment according to the "NEWS", it is very clear you are uncapable to have a mind of your own. Please, I also know Joe, I know he will punish himself no matter who's fault it is, for the REST of his life. The family and friends of Joe are praying for BOTH families as BOTH have lost lives! Joe is NOT a monster, he will take the shirt off his back for ANYONE, he is very passionate and respectful of everyone and I am SURE he will punish himself, far more than any judge can. He HAS to live with this! NOT YOU! So please don't sit pretty on the sidelines as someone, who has NEVER made mistakes or bad choices and isn't even family to either party passing judgement.
Suzy Simons
2:37 am on Wednesday, September 7, 2011
Okay Sunchild, I am the granddaughter of the women that were killed. Those women were my dads mom and grandma. I can safely say that Pamela is a friend of my grandmas. Because anyone who knew her would know she made friends with everyone in her life. Her friends lost just as much as we did. Eventually, when Joe pays for his crime he will be out of jail, and free to live. Meanwhile, in order to see my grandmas I have to go see a rock in a grassy field. I won't get anymore phone calls from them singing happy birthday songs in harmony, I will never get to see my grandmas lovely teddy bear tree, and I won't ever get their warm hugs again. None of us will. Seeing all of this is making bad situation, even worse for us.
Sunchild
8:05 am on Thursday, September 1, 2011
For any one with just an ounce of compassion for other people, please realize, it isn't just Joe who will live w/ this and the out come. He has a son who will not have a daddy to hold his hand, kiss his boo-boo, read him a bed time story, or teach him how mistakes and bad choices like this can ruin peoples lives. To teach him, NO ONE is perfect or better than the next, to teach him, not to judge others, fill your heart will love, compassion, and forgiveness. Please people.... its easy to sit back and talk smack, when its NOT you or your family! It can happen to even the best of people, and this is a perfect example. So judge if you must, but keep in mind, what kind of person do you want to be? The final judgement is up to God.
Sunchild
8:45 am on Thursday, September 1, 2011
Geared towards little Mrs. Pamela, who is just an agent of the family, Quote, "I will be the FIRST person to apologize to the other driver, if that indeed is the case." Even if that turns out not to be the case, who are you to judge someone you do not personally know and even if you did know them? Will you wish him condemned to hell and to ROT in jail? Nothing can change what happened no matter "who's fault" and everyone involved will live w/ this tragedy. If it were you, how would you "live" with this? You should appologize either way, you have NO IDEA what kind of person he is. I hope the family that lost their loved ones here, are not standing behind your opinions and have God in their lives and can hold love and compassion and forgivness in their hearts. I know if I were part of their family, I would be upset w/ your comments and statements and quick judgments against others here as "JUST" an agent! We have agents in our family, and I'm pretty sure, if they stuck their nose and opinions (instead of doing their JOB) were it doesn't belong, I would NOT be working w/ that agent any longer, especially in situations as this! A friend, a family member, I can see that... they have just lost someone dear to them but an insurance agent? ODD and unprofessional and I would feel uncomfortable to have our agent opening opinions in the matter publicly like this. Prayers for their family and so sorry for their loss.
tammy
10:07 am on Thursday, September 1, 2011
There is a witness who said he had to swerve onto the shoulder because Joseph was driving southbound in the northbound lane
Hope
10:23 am on Thursday, September 1, 2011
Thankyou sunchild. Now I can stop reading this thread of garbage. I hope there are no more comments about this tragedy. My family and I have been praying for both sides. May God watch over them all in their time of pain and mourning.
lauren
10:29 am on Thursday, September 1, 2011
I have known Joe since we were in gradeschool. He is a nice person that made a horrible choice. A choice that will affect the rest of his life. I feel for the families that lost loved ones, we all have lost someone and it is painfully hard to deal with. I think it is extremely important for everyone to realize that this was not intentional, Joe would never cross the line to "murder" people. It was an accident that unfortunately resulted in the deaths of two individuals. Joe will live with this for the rest of his life knowing that his actions hurt other people and that is punishment enough. I think the comments on here need to stop. You people need to get over yourselves because your comments do not matter. Again, I am deeply sorry for the family who lost the two women, but also for Joe and his family because the will be going through a lot of heartache too.
Terri
8:10 am on Friday, September 2, 2011
I can't believe people are defending someone who did this. This is a public forum and no one has the right to tell people not to comment.
lauren
9:22 am on Friday, September 2, 2011
In no way am I justifying his actions. Does anyone hear believe in karma?? One day you might have to be defending someone ( your daughter, son, husband, wife, brother, sister, mom, dad, friend, etc.) you love while people sit there and ridicule them... So go ahead and comment.. like ur opinion matters... right??
Meg Thomson
11:53 pm on Friday, September 2, 2011
I am sickened that Mr. Slattery was able to leave prison faster than my aunt and grandmother were able to leave the morgue. I am also sickened by the few of you who are demanding that the person who KILLED my aunt and grandmother be shown forgiveness. How do you forgive someone when they have not admitted wrong nor have they asked for forgiveness? Perhaps this would be a good place for the healing to begin for all of us. My grandmother and aunt were not just "2 elderly women". Their true identity lies in an article in Thursday's Daily Herald,
"Autistic man survives Rolling Meadows mom, grandma killed in DUI" www.dailyherald.com/article/20110901/news/709019963/
I am humbled and forever grateful to have been able to have called them my grandmother and aunt! This past week, my family and I were comforted by hundreds of people who took the time to attend their wake and funeral. ALL had a story they wanted to share of how Grandma and Aunt Marge made their lives better! I pray that someday, good will come of this tragedy that has left a black hole in our family forever.
Meg Thomson
11:54 pm on Friday, September 2, 2011
For those "twisted people" who are unable to accept the truth and have posted on this site - please do not respond to me. I will not reply. Instead, tomorrow, I will drive to a hospital in Kankakee and attempt to explain to a 42 year old autistic man that his beloved grandmother and mother have been laid to rest. I will then return home and for probably the 10th time this week, attempt to explain to my 3 year old daughter why she cannot go to Grandma Thomson's and Aunt Marge's house to play their piano and feed their goldfish anymore. I will then wake up every day and ask myself how I can make the world a better place for someone else. My grandma and aunt must have asked themselves that question every day because every day they made someone's live better! It was truly remarkable! Finally, thank you to Pamela and the rest of you for your words of comfort and support. And to those few of you delusional "posters" out there, a reader from the Daily Herald put it best: “To the family and friends of the driver: If you truly feel sorrow, shame and anguish as you claim, the only dignified and humane thing to do is to keep your mouths shut and let this family grieve in peace. “ You are also welcome to meet me at the hospital tomorrow and help me figure out how to provide Ralphie with at least half of the love and care his mother and grandmother had so selflessly given him his entire life.
Suzy Simons
2:09 am on Wednesday, September 7, 2011
Well said Meg, couldn't have said it better myself.
Sunchild
9:26 am on Wednesday, September 7, 2011
To Suzy and Meg, and the rest of the family, I am deeply deeply sorry for your loss. It is a tragic to have to go through this and to lose loved ones. I know God has a plan for everyone and you are all in my thoughts and prayers. Meg, I would love to be able to help. I don't know what you have in mind, but I am up for suggestions to be able to help if you have any. Is anyone thinking maybe about a benefit for Ralphie possibly?
JustConcerned
6:17 pm on Wednesday, September 7, 2011
I believe that Memorial Contributions can be made to benefit Ralph Simons through Glueckert Funeral Home; 1520 N Arlington Heights Rd. Arlington Heights IL, 60004.
Johnny Five
7:41 pm on Tuesday, September 13, 2011
I cannot believe any of you people who defend him, I don't care who you are. This IS murder. Why you ask? Because he chose to drink (and do drugs) and drive. The minute he made that choice, he incriminates himself in everything that happens thereafter. If this were your family member that were killed, you wouldn't think twice about it. You can't defend this. Let me see if I can clarify it for you people on the things he did wrong:
1. Went out planning to drink while with a 1-year old.
2. Decided to do drugs before driving with a 1-year old.
3. Decided to drink and drive with a 1-year old.
Guess what, I am a father of two little girls and I would NEVER EVER have one beer even if driving with my kids. The minute this happened, all respect goes out the window. How dumb can you be? I'm sure he is a "great guy" who would give the shirt of his back. Yah, he would trade the shirt off his back for another beer, or another hit. Ask yourself how you would feel if it was your mom, your dad, or your child. If it were anyone in my family, he would want to go to jail because I couldn't wait that long to make sure justice is served. He knew what the consequences were BEFORE he picked up the alcohol, BEFORE he used the drugs, and BEFORE he put his child in the car. The case of it being an accident at that point goes straight out the door. That people makes him a murderer, PERIOD. He's not a teenager. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. Accident? Whoops, I hit em.
jackie simons
10:29 am on Thursday, September 15, 2011
with what my sister and meg said there is a reson why this is called an acsident everyday i cant stand reading this bc it makes me so sad to see all the things that people think about my grandma and great grandma they where wonderful people and i am sorry for the famlily of the drunk driver because yes his son will only be able to see him behind bars but i would rather be n that spot then the one i am in now because at least he can see his father my grandma and great granmda will never be able to do the things they loved or see the ones the loved ever again the world has lost the two most wonderful people and this man will pay for what he as done i just hope this dosent have to happen to anyone else so plez if u have any respect for humanity plez just leave this alone we all have our own opions but the world dosent have to know i loved them so much and i miss them they will never be able to see me graduate high school that was what i wanted most in my life was for them to be there now they wont
Mad Dad
11:06 pm on Sunday, September 18, 2011
I wish Pamela was my Insurance Agent.
Paul Dailing
10:16 am on Monday, September 19, 2011
I would once again like to remind those commenting on this article that this crash destroyed two families and impacted everyone who knew both parties. Comments sniping about grammar or making threats against people who lost those they care about are inappropriate here. I had to delete several more comments violating our terms of use today. I realize emotions are high, but out of respect for the people who lost their lives and those who lost loved ones, please don't use the anonymity of the Internet to hide things you wouldn't say to a person's face.
Paul Dailing
Editor, Mokena Patch
Suzy Simons
10:15 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Thank you. Who in their right mind would threaten us???? Luckily I didn't catch that. Some people are so heartless.
Oh Please
11:06 pm on Sunday, September 25, 2011
Sandy, you sure are defending this guy pretty heavily...how are you related to him? You said not to judge because the woman driver may have had bad eyesight or some other medical condition>>>how, pray tell does her eyesight make him cross the center line? How would a medical condition the she may or may not have had cause him to cross the center line? That’s just ludicrous. You also state that " I am sure that when he left with his child in the car he did not INTEND to murder 2 innocent people nor put his son in danger" How did he not intentionally put his son in danger by driving under the influence not only alcohol but drugs also
Suzy Simons
10:21 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Yeah, You also have to remember these people left these comments a few days after the fact. Let them defend their family, that just shows us where they stand on the issue. If anyone was sorry for their actions they, themselves, would say it out loud to us. All of you are making it worse by speaking for him. Meanwhile my family still grieves heavily, not a day goes by that I don't wish that I could call my grandma's house and find them there. I won't though. You know what it is to lose sleep every night, knowing that the person that has practically raised you, who brought the family together for EVERY occasion, is gone. And without any warning at all. I stand by what I originally said, Slattery will serve his time and be free. My family will be missing 2 people forever.
jackie simons
11:41 am on Tuesday, October 11, 2011
i could care less about what anyone thinks i miss my grandma and great grandma and this man was wrong for what he did end of story.
John Doh
10:16 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
none of you know anything.... his blood work came in and his alocohol level was .005...hmmmm can you say a drink with family to celebrate a birthday... also the "drugs" was a vicoden taken 2days prior to accident for a back problem he has..a vicoden last up to 3days in system btw.. and he is a wonderful person and father.. yea he might as well went out bought a gun and shoot two people.. then i could understand the anger and hate ya'll have towards this.."monster" of person..this was a freak accident..how do you know he wasnt tryiong to give his kid a bottle to stop him from crying??? it is a very sad sad situation and Mr.Slattery and his family are deeply sorry and have to live with that for the rest of their lives...Things like this happen every day! its hard to loose people and feel sorry for the victims family..how were they? they lived their lives and are in a better place..Mr.Slattery on the other hand has his whole life a head of him..whats left of..it..hard to get job im sure cant drive ever again.having to live with people talking bad.etc etc o and by the way he still has a kid....
John Hokins
10:17 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
none of you know anything.... his blood work came in and his alocohol level was .005...hmmmm can you say a drink with family to celebrate a birthday... also the "drugs" was a vicoden taken 2days prior to accident for a back problem he has..a vicoden last up to 3days in system btw.. and he is a wonderful person and father.. yea he might as well went out bought a gun and shoot two people.. then i could understand the anger and hate ya'll have towards this.."monster" of person..this was a freak accident..how do you know he wasnt tryiong to give his kid a bottle to stop him from crying??? it is a very sad sad situation and Mr.Slattery and his family are deeply sorry and have to live with that for the rest of their lives...Things like this happen every day! its hard to loose people and feel sorry for the victims family..how were they? they lived their lives and are in a better place..Mr.Slattery on the other hand has his whole life a head of him..whats left of..it..hard to get job im sure cant drive ever again.having to live with people talking bad.etc etc o and by the way he still has a kid....
Suzy Simons
10:15 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
If he is so sorry then where is our apology? Whether he was drunk or NOT he killed my grandmother and great grandmother! Not once has he said sorry to our family. He's has the chance he has seen us in court! You want everyone to feel sorry for the Slattery family. What about us? I am 22 years old and I don't understand half of the things I've seen. None of you have any idea what we've been through! They lived their lives???? Who are you to be the judge of that? Don't you understand how much all of this hurts the Simons and Thompson family? John Hokins you make this seem like Joseph is the victim here, but I don't feel sorry for him. No one should ever see their Grandma and Great Grandma the way I've seen, before we buried them. SO PLEASE, stop trying to get sympathy. You have NO idea what living in pain is. If he is so sorry let him say it himself, otherwise it means NOTHING. Put yourself in our shoes that was my dad's mother and grandmother. What if someone did this to your mother? I doubt you would be so understanding. You claim that no one here knows the facts, but you have forgotten that their is a whole other side to this story. It just seems like Slattery supporters don't care about who they hurt with their comments. You all say bad things about two people who can't defend themselves!
~Suzanne Irene Simons (ssimons89)
Heather DeVries Ferraro
5:37 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
See people are to quick to judge and comment before the "true" facts come out!!
Suzy Simons
10:16 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
If he is so sorry then where is our apology? Whether he was drunk or NOT he killed my grandmother and great grandmother! Not once has he said sorry to our family. He's has the chance he has seen us in court! You want everyone to feel sorry for the Slattery family. What about us? I am 22 years old and I don't understand half of the things I've seen. None of you have any idea what we've been through! They lived their lives???? Who are you to be the judge of that? Don't you understand how much all of this hurts the Simons and Thompson family? John Hokins you make this seem like Joseph is the victim here, but I don't feel sorry for him. No one should ever see their Grandma and Great Grandma the way I've seen, before we buried them. SO PLEASE, stop trying to get sympathy. You have NO idea what living in pain is. If he is so sorry let him say it himself, otherwise it means NOTHING. Put yourself in our shoes that was my dad's mother and grandmother. What if someone did this to your mother? I doubt you would be so understanding. You claim that no one here knows the facts, but you have forgotten that their is a whole other side to this story. It just seems like Slattery supporters don't care about who they hurt with their comments. You all say bad things about two people who can't defend themselves!
~Suzanne Irene Simons (ssimons89)
John
10:23 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
Suzy, when will you have a resolution to this terriable accident? Has the court indicated what type of punishment that he will face, and when he will have to serve that punishment? This seems to be taking quite a long time.
Suzy Simons
10:38 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
I don't know. I am not sure of anything anymore. I've heard from one woman from Alliance Against Intoxicated Motorists that this process can take a while. All I know is that every time I go to a pretrial hearing and see Joseph Slattery, it hurts all over again. It's another reminder of what happened, and that I will never see the two people I love ever again. I hope this will all be resolved soon.
Suzy Simons
10:29 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
PS: If the state didn't have some sort of proof of his guilt, they wouldn't be pushing through with the charges. Oh, and even if they were prescribed, anyone who takes medications such as those, is not supposed to drink AT ALL on them. IF in fact he did turn to give the baby a bottle, then how come the crash report taken by police says Joseph didn't remember hitting anything or anyone? If they had nothing on him they wouldn't be trying to charge him with it.
Jonathan Thompkins
3:59 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
I have him on my facebook and I always see him posting things about working, but do not see anything about him going to jail!
Anna Schier
4:31 pm on Wednesday, October 17, 2012
John Doe,
Your comment contained profanity and personal attacks, which does not align with Patch's commenting policy. Please refrain from swearing when posting on Patch.
Thank you,
Anna
Question
11:46 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Is this the same Joseph slattery whose town home on kenmare circle in manhattan is in foreclosure?
Jonathan Thompkins
11:53 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Yes, this is the same person.
Jonathan Thompkins
6:54 pm on Friday, November 23, 2012
It totaly is the same person, I live on that street, which is how I know.
John Doe
1:40 pm on Monday, March 25, 2013
is there an update to this story?
Suzy Simons
11:49 pm on Tuesday, April 9, 2013
There really is no update as of right now. It has been a long, and painful journey. I can tell you though, that we seem to be close to some sort of resolution.